Relevent info (bear with me I dont have internet on the blasted thing so I'm hand typing all of my outputs) Device ASUS PCE-N15 Wireless N Wireless WPA2-personal Outputs lspci -k Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 84b6 Kernal driver in use: rtl8192ce Kernal modules: rtl8192ce (these next ones are in the order I entered them and their outputs wlp6s0 is my interface) ip link set wlp6s0 iw dev wlp6s0 (sometimes i get a return sometimes not, if its really neccesery I can screw with it until i get the return) iw dev wlp6s0 scan | less BSS 3c:ea:4f:53:83:01(onwlp6s0) TSF: 10043384008930 usec (116d, 05:49:44) freq: 2432 beacon interval: 100 TUs capability: ESS Privacy ShortPreamble ShortSlotTime (0x0431) signal: -76.00 dBm last seen: 496 ms ago SSID: 2WIRE298 Supported rates: 1.0* 2.0* 5.5* 6.0 9.0 11.0* 12.0 18.0 DS Paramter set: channel 5 Country: US Enviroment: Indoor/Outdoor Channels [1-11] @ 27 dBm RSN: (some stuff im to lazy to hand type) WPA: (Some stuff im to lazy to hnd type) ERP: Use_Protection Extended supported rates: (some more stuff im to lazy to type) Now I was using netctl initially, but tried uninstalling it thinking maybe it was somehow messing things up. Using netctl start wlp6s0-2WIRE298 my memory is a little fuzzy and I can obviously not use netctl anymore since I uninstalled but it told me to check journal -xn or such and one other long file name. tje long file name had nothing of importnace but journal -xn said authentiacted then a deauthentication reason=2 (which means im authenticated but not authorized) (yes I checked that I entered my password in correctly) Then the error flag "failed to bring up netowrk was shown" Trying the manual method wpa_supplicant -i wlp6s0 -c <(wpa_passphrase 2WIRE298 mypsk) succesfully initialized wpa_supplicant wlp6s0: Trying to associate with 3c:ea:4f:53:83:01 (SSID='2WIRE298' freq=2431 MHz) ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy (*****might just be me but that seems not right) wlp6s0: Association request to the driver failed (I checked I'm pretty sure I dont need any extra firmware or anything) wlp6s0: Associated with 3c:ea:4f:53:83:01 wlp6s0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=3c:ea:4f:53:83:01 reason=0 (if i use -Dnl80211 reason=2) wlp6s0: WPA: 4-way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect wlp6s0: CTRL-Event-SSID-TEMP-DISABLED id=0 ssid="2WIRE298" auth_failures=1 duration=10 wlp6s0: CTRL-Event-SSID-REENABLED id=0 ssid="2WIRE298" repeat in an endless cycle I have tried dhcpcd but it failes and im pretty sure its because the above command is not working I have also tried making full wpa_supplicant.conf and netctl profile by hand filling in everything explicitly. The only time the output ever changed was when I made it die at an earlier step.